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Wednesday, June 23, 2010

Updates

Queries are made to Orissa Circle Branch of AIAIASP about updates on different burning aspects. This Branch of AIAIASP has no access to the information sought for. However, GS is contacted frequently over phone and his version is posted in the blog for information of all concerned. The updates as ascertained from the GS on 23.06.2010 is reproduced below.


  1. Allotment orders for surplus qualified candidates of IP Exam 2008 are expected to be released  very shortly. (Let us hope against hopes)

  2. The result of IP Exam 2009 is expected to be out in July 2010

  3. The proposal for upgradation of GP of IP is selved by Directorate for the time being awaiting outcome of the CAT case filed in the Ernakulam Bench. The reported excuse is - 'the matter is subjudice'. This is what was apprehended by Orissa Branch of AIAIASP  and mentioned earlier in a posting in this blog (refer the link  http://ipasporissa.blogspot.com/2010/02/delay-in-upgradation-of-gps-makes.html). The GS and the CHQ President are scheduled to meet Secretary (Posts) in the matter shortly. Orissa Branch of AIAIASP has advised the GS to tell Secretary (Posts) that the CAT case filed in individual capacity does not restrain the Govt from giving benefits to the whole cadre of IPs/ASPs and the Directorate should take appropriate care of the issue in the larger interest of 4000 odd IPs/ASPs as fast as possible otherwise Directorate will be resonsible for the repercussions that may cause for growing resentment among IPs and ASPs throughout the country for ignoring their legitimate demand on some pretext or other. Delay in going ahead with the proposal will only lend support to the growing feeling that the Department is not genuinely interested for getting the upgradation proposal materialised.

  4. The issue of joining strike with JCA was left to the CHQ of AIAIASP for taking a suitable decision in consultaion with all stake-holders including the Circle Secretaries of AIAIASP. It is learnt from CHQ sources that there was no adequate scope to ascertain definite views of all concerned on the issue. As mentioned by CHQ President the matter will find a place in the discussion in the coming CWC meeting to be convened shortly to decide the appropriate course of action to be followed in future.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

respected sir,

let me know the exact time frame for "SHORTLY". this term is being used for especially for this case for more than 6 months. when will the allotment orders released? hopes and expectations are raising and raising

Anonymous said...

SIR,

We are very much thankfull to you for providing update information. No other circle GS is providng information like Orissa branch. Many Many thanks to Mohanty Sir.

It is the right time to mount pressure on Dte., at CHQ level to achieve higher GP. Otherwise walk in stirke immediately without any further loss of time.
I.P. from A.P. Circle

shyam said...

Dear Comrade,
I am a daily observer of your website and agree with most of your views especially strike...when an opportunity comes, we should make use of it. The best opportunity has now come but alas the CHQ is not prepared.. I think it may be view of the CHQ that "officers" should not embark strike...

-T.R. Shyamsundar
ASP(HQ)
Karaikudi Division
Tamilnadu

Anonymous said...

Sir,
Please do not publish the comments only praising your activities. Show all the comments whether positive or negative so that those viewing the site can come to the right conclusion about the cadre merger etc.

AIAIASP, ODISHA CIRCLE BRANCH, BHUBANESWAR said...

There is no question of postings about praising our own activity. Informations / facts as gathered from time to time are posted for information of members. Some analytical postings on burning issues are also made to invite comments of members. However, the blog administrator reserves the right to withhold any comment in full or part if it is in bad taste or directed at maligning the reputation of certain individuals. Blog administrotor's view is final in this respect. If anybody is still interested in publishing his / her comments, he / she should give his / her full identity instead of writing anonymously. A person writing anonymously has no right to ask for publication of his/ her comments.

CS, AIAIASP, Orissa Circle Branch

Permanand said...

Dear Mohanty Sir,
I appreciate your views but I don't agree with the facts mentioned in para 3. CAT case filed at Ernakulam bench cannot be taken as one of the reason for delay in Grade pay hike of Inspector Posts. If you permit, I would like to clear our stand regarding filing of CAT case. The details are as follows:
(1) We waited for almost six months after the MOF OM dated 13.11.09 for some concrete action from the Dept./Association.
(2) We moved to CAT only after the rejection of Dept's second proposal by MOF. Rejection was expected as combined proposal was sent again to MOF. The scope for upgradtion of GP of Inspector Posts arose only when the GP of Inspectors of CBDT / CBEC, Assistants and Stenographers in CSS was upgraded. There was no mention of upgradation of GPs of other promotional cadres in the concerned Depts/Ministries in the relevant orders. So, becoming rigid on upgradation of GP of ASPOs and PS Gr.B officers at that stage did not appear to be a wise action. Even the merger proposal of Inspector Posts and ASPOs is being discussed for so many months with no fruitful result. We are disappointed by the passive attitude by the Association / Dept. towards the Grade Pay hike of Inspector Posts even after getting the clear view of the members in the General body meeting of the Association on 3rd April'2010.
(3) There is no hurdle for the Dept. to take any step regarding Grade pay hike of Inspector Posts, such as merger of IP and ASP etc., as we have only demanded GP of Rs.4600 for Inspector Posts and nothing has been mentioned about merger of any cadres in the OA 381/2010 filed at Ernakulam Bench. More over the first respondent in the OA is Secretary, MOF.
(4) It is for the Dept. to decide as to how the upgraded Grade Pay of Rs.4600 has to be given to Inspector Posts. As far as the equal grade pay to Inspectors and ASPOs are concerned, it is to mention that in CSS, Section officers and Assistants were at the same pay scale of Rs.6500-10500 for almost two years(Sept'06 to Aug'08), till the finalisation of the issue. Why not in our Dept., the equal Grade pay issue may be sorted out after giving GP of Rs.4600 to Inspector Posts ? It seems that either the Association or the Dept. is not willing to sort out the issue for their own reasons which may be suitable for their cause.
(5) We are fighting for the equality with our counterparts in other Departments since long. Fifth CPC had approved the equality, which was disturbed by the MOF in April’2004. No action was taken by the Association or the Dept. at that time to enhance the Pay scale of Inspector Posts accordingly. We should appreciate the move taken by Sri Jayantha of Karnatka Circle, who filed a CAT case in 2006 at Bengalore bench (424/06). At that time also the Association was a mute spectator. However, it was our fate that, the case was disposed without any decision as the 6th CPC was constituted. Our so called Association (AIA of IP and ASP), even could not represent before the 6th CPC, it was the IRM/ASRM Association, which represented before the 6th CPC and demanded for equality. Now, again 6th CPC approved the equality of Inspector Posts with their counterparts in CBDT / CBEC and Assistants in CSS and again the equality has been disturbed by the MOF vide its OM dated 13.11.09 and 16.11.09. After experiencing the passive attitude of the Association /Dept. for so long, can we wait till next pay commission ? Obviously NOT . Then, what is the option available with us other than the legal one ?
We have no regret for the action we have already taken.
Thanks.
Permanand
Kerala Circle

Anonymous said...

Why the CHQ and other circles of the Association is keeping silence over the Grade Pay issue of Inspector Posts. Senior members of the Association are sitting on the issue for their own benefit. They are keeping quiet such as all things have been sorted out. Such act will lead towards the breakup of the Association. We agree that the interest of the seniors should also be protected, without destroying the scope of new Inspectors. Hope all will understand and will take a positive step for getting the higher Grade pay for Inspector Posts.

AIAIASP, ODISHA CIRCLE BRANCH, BHUBANESWAR said...

Dear Permanand Ji,
I have no disageement with you on any point. You are entitled to your view and action. But what I have tried to make out always is that the legal battle is always time consuming and costly also, hence not preferable. Supposing that Ernakulam Bench of CAT delivers a favourable judgement. In that case the Govt. still has the option of appealing against the order in High Court and then in Supreme Court. If the Govt. does not prefer to appeal it is altogether a different matter. But if at all it appeals, then the case is not going to end early. Supposing the case in Ernakulam Bench is lost (God willing this does not happen). Then you will have to appeal against the order in HC. Is not it time consuming? What is the guarantee that the judgement, particularly in HC will not take time much beyond your expectation? Past experince shows that legal remedy to matters relating to pay fixation is not quite effective. Even in the CAT case filed in Bangalore there was no direct order to hike the pay of IP cadre.
Having said this all, I personally appreciate your pain-staking effort in going to CAT on the issue. If you succeed, it will be something which cannot be expressed in words. But my apprehension is what will be the situation if Ernakulam Bench does not appreciate the view points from applicant's side despite having the merits in the case. I think you have taken a risk which has the potential of both benefiting and harming the mass interest though I have absolutely no reason to doubt your ability and sincerity in the matter.
The Inspectors of CBDT/CBEC achieved the success not through legal remedy but by pushing the case through agitational method. That is the reason why I have mooted the proposal for joining strike alongwith JCA. I know this not at a good idea to ask IPs/ASPs to join the strike. But to my belief, it is only way to approach the Govt with shortest possible time. I have nothing to join issue with you. But I have made my point known to every visitor of this blog through postings . It is upto the visitor to accept or reject it.
I have no comments on the past action of the AIAIASP. My only request is to get the facts rechecked.

Thanking you.
Yours sincerely

B B Mohanty
CS, AIAIASP, Orissa Circle Branch

Anonymous said...

Mohanti jee,
You do not think, we should take mass CL for two days from 13.07.10 from which date NFPE is going on strike. It is the best way to create pressure on directorate. Despite the secretary assurance in association meeting, the case has not yet send to MOF. It shows that the importance of secretery word is not being given. It shows the fate and nature of department.

ASP from Assam Circle.

Permanand said...

Dear Mohanty Sir,
I agree that protest such as strike, mass casual leave and even black badge will be the best way to mount pressure on the Dept., but the question is that whether the Association will go for such move. You please tell me, do you have any belief that the Association may take any such move ? If we had shown some protest, we could have get the justice and there would not been any need to approach CAT.
Thanks.
Permanand.

AIAIASP, ODISHA CIRCLE BRANCH, BHUBANESWAR said...

Dear Permanand Ji,
Continued suffering will certainly bring changes in the present attitude of the IPs/ ASPs to think about strike. I am not sure when it is going to happen. It all depends on Central leadership with co-operation of all concerned. The proposal is going to be debated in the next CWC meeting and something will definitely emerge to decide the course of action in future.

I believe that that the AIAIASP should resort to strike alongside JCA (not alongwith JCA) with a separate Charter of Demand. The timing should concide the strike by JCA. This is because, it will be difficult to get important demands of IP & ASPs cadres accommodated in the combined charter of demands of JCA.
Yes, you are right when you say that the Association has not prepared itself yet to take up the challenge. But things are going to change from now onwards.
When you have already approached the CAT there is no scope for going back. Let us wish you all the best in your venture in our own interest.
At the same time we have advised the GS to approach Directorate for taking up the case with MOF in appropriate manner to get the proposal materialised without the plea of CAT case which does not prohibit the Govt. to take decision in the matter. The Govt can very well mention to CAT in reply that it has disposed of the issue by accepting the demand. But as things stand, the Govt does not want to accept the demand. Hence, result of CAT case is crucial. It will have a bearing on decideing future couse of action.
Sincerely,
Mohanty, CS, AIAIASP, Orissa