On 19.02.2010 a comment is posted in this blog by one inspectorial staff mentioning about angry reactions for the delay in upgradation of GP of IPs. The details of the comments are withheld for obvious reasons.
The suggestion of some of our cadre members for merger of ASP and PS Gr.B cadres appears to be impractical as the nature of duties and assignments of ASP and PS Gr.B cadres is totally different from each other. The Dept. cannot create huge number of additional posts of PS. Gr.B to accommodate ASPs with upgraded GPs. Let the ASP cadre, therefore, die as it will bring no tears having achieved nothing in the career except losing PLB in lieu of Gazetted status. In many Circles including Orissa, it takes 12 to 16 years to become an ASP. Before that the IP will get MACPS with 10 years’ service. There is absolutely no financial loss for ASPs in majority of Circles if IP and ASP cadres merge.
The willingness and suggestion of some of our cadre members to approach CAT for upgradation of GPs is out of place. We have the experience of CAT judgement in the past in the matter of upward revision of pay. It will be sheer waste of time and money in fighiting the cases in judicial fora. If there is delay in judgement which is very much likely, the Govt. may pick up the convenient plea and tell that it cannot take the decision as the matter is subjudice. Let us, therefore, be practical as emotional actions will lead to confusion and chaos.
In such a situation, pursuing the proposal for upgradation of GP of IPs to Rs.4600/- with simultaneous merger of IP and ASP cadres is the need of the hour. It is time for unity and unanimity. Let the CHQ take steps in this direction as fast as possible or else the matter will go to cold storage.
Comments from members are welcome on this view.
B B Mohanty
CS, AIAIASP, Orissa Circle Branch-cum-
Manager (ASP Grade), Project Arrow, Orissa Circle
12 comments:
very nice analysis. This is an inevitable option (merger of GP of IP/ASP). I invite all are to see this comment and support. N Prakash, IP, Walajapet Sub DIvision TN.
Dear C.S orissa circle,
You are telling about loss of PLB of ASP who are gazetted now. And also telling the merger of IP and ASP. If IPs merged to Gazetted ASP cadre whether these IP get PLB. Moreover it is the department and not IP/ASP association who suggested either merger of IP with ASP or ASP with SP. Hence why we do bother about the functional difficulties and creation of new PS group - B posts. It will be the headache of the department and not ours. When an age long cadre is to surrender we should get maximum benifit out of it. take the case of inspectors in Customs / income tax etc. the ratio of existing posts between inspector and Supdts are very high when compared to merged cadre of IP/ASP with that of SPOs. Hence their promotional prospects are more brighter. I had mentioned earlier in the blog the benifits when ASP and SPs are merged. It is quite surprising to see that our leaders do not have the ability to foresee the things. they are not ready to read the Govt. orders etc. We donot know how to present things before the department and the pay commission. We are thinking that we are the loyal staff of the department. but the department is betraying us, exploiting us, sucking our last drop of blood. You see that many senior ASPs are suffering from a series of disceases like hyper tension, heart attach etc. due to continous and streanuses work. what the association do for them.
there is no other reason why we are not getting upgraded pay given to AAOs, section officers, nurses, teachers etc.by the Govt.
I call upon all of us that in future we have to join hand with our clerical unions for redressal of all our grievances through methods like dharna, hunger fast, token strike and indefinite strike.
A good decision, at last. Hope all Circle Secretaries emphasize this to GS and get the work done within this month.
Very good observation. You are fit to become next GS of Association.
Dear C.S,
According to our G.S on 4.1.10 meeting had with DDG (Estt) the official side suggested either to merge IP with ASP or ASP with SP. The G.S should have accepted the sugestion of merger of ASP with SP at the very moment as it is very clear that the SPOs will not get GP 5400 as it will invite similar demands from supdt.s of CBDT/ income tax etc.
Why we are bothering about functional difficulties and creation of PSS Group B posts. The C.S should not be so loyal to department as the department is not so in return. I am agreeing with whatever things mentioned by one member earlier. The leaders of our association cannot foresee any thing. This department is loyal to IPS officers only and IPS officer are bound to be loyal to department. but we are not. See that the department abolished certain SSP posts to create 15 PMG posts and 14 DPS posts to enhance the promotional prospects IPS cadre at the expenses of PS group - B. As the number of SSP posts are reduced the promotional prospects of SP to SSP decreased. I couldnot heard any sound of protest from Group-B association or IP/ASP association against this injustice. 'BECAUSE WE ARE VERY LOYAL TO OUR DEPARTMENT'
Previously I have suggested in many meetings to change the name of ASP as Supdt and name of Supdt. as Divisonal Officer / Divisional Manager but it went to deaf ears.
In railways the name of the dieseal assistant changed as assistant loco pilot, station master as station manager and so on. in in other department also similar things happened.
The name of PSS group- B posts in RO/CO is termed as Asst. Director and in post offices termed as Sr. Postmaster. then why can't we change the name of divisional heads as mentioned above. the duties and responsibilities of an SPO cannot be equated with Supdts in the departments of customs/income tax/ excise etc. duties and responsibilites Supdts in other departments can be equated with that of ASP of our department. If the name of the ASP changed as Supdt. sometimes back there will not be any confusion in upgrading the pay of IP to 4600, Supt. to 4800 and consequently GP 5400 to Divisional heads.
Thanks for realistic observation , we are surprising that when maximum no of members believe in same type of view why you ( all CS)are not pressurizing GS to take this decision?
we appreciate this good observation and realistic approach of CS Orissa Circle. We are planning to go CAT only because, there is no visible ray of hope. If some positive move is taken by the association, we should wait for the outcome.
MOF no.1/1/2008-IC dtd.13.11.09 changes the GP of all the posts in the prerevised scale of Rs.6500-10000 from Rs.4200 to 4600 with clear indication that the posts wil be merged with the posts with prerevised scale of 7450-11500, where such posts exist. Hence merger is the ultimate result.There is no need to exercise our option on this.Our association should get the MOF order implemented soon.
Dear GS, please talk to the dept and implement the merger of IP and ASP with gazetted status for the merged cadre before end of February. Let the injustice to IPs be stopped immediately.
Dear CS,
very good positive and practical approch......pls go for it.
hope our GS will also realize the same..
do justice for IPs cadre.
The CS has given right direction to the long ongoing debate by calling comments via this Blog.Sharp comments, even indirect allegation of bias against IPs are seen.CS has given indication of a unpublishable comment.
But friends, why most of the members maintain their anonimity while giving comments? Are we scared or shy? In both the situations we are making our leaders as well as our cause weak.
Dear Permanand,
Your views are bold . We need peoples like you and C/S Orisa in Association's body. Some body has told identity of IPOs/ASPOs should be revealed in the blog. Why identity is required? Mr. Gopalji and B.C. Sharma has also offered some good views.The IPOs/Jr. ASPOs who are mostly in loss and Sr. ASPOs are also in loss due to rejection of 4600 GP to IPOs. Sr.ASPOs are also going to benifit through MACP if 4600 GP is granted. All IPOs /ASPOs are going to benifit if GP 4600 is granted to IPOs. The only thing is that SPOs wanted to Push their GP to 5400 and then expected subsequent jump to 6600/- within a 4 years i.e they expected that if demand of GP of 4600 to IPOs w.e.f.1.1.06, is accepted they will jump in 6600/- in 2010 and hence the hurdle has been created by GS or his close associates in SPO cadre. The suggestions and comments of frustated IPOs/ASPOs in blog are enough . The identity OF IPO/ASPO in blog is not necessary. When Shri Permanand files a case then see the response/donations from all IPOs/ASPOs of many Circles. I have discuussed with 14-15 IPOs of my Circle & they r ready to donate when the case is filled in CAT.Instead of giving Union contribution we will give it to Shri Permanad who is showing some guts to file case in CAT in the interest of all IPOs/ASPOs.
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